Rohan Ricketts's 'Passion For Football'
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Rohan Ricketts's 'Passion For Football'

It's time for, perhaps, the most obscure and most bizarre book we've ever read on Football Book Club - and definitely the shortest. We're reading all 58 pages of former Spurs, Wolves and Arsenal midfielder Rohan Ricketts's self-published, 2013 book 'Passion For Football: Things To Know From Youth to Pro'.


Having played for no less than NINETEEN clubs around the world, from Canada to Bangladesh, Ecuador to Coventry, Rohan's book is part self-help, part the highs and lows of being a globetrotting journeyman, and there's even time for an interview with Darren Bent.


Featuring unwanted phone calls with David Pleat, Steve Sidwell teacher's pet and the perils of being a salsa teacher. Plus Eric the taxi driving football agent, a truly disastrous spell in Moldova and Rohan teaches us the F.A.C.T.S.


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[00:00:57] Rho Han Ricketts.

[00:01:03] Nauties journeyman midfielder.

[00:01:05] Play for spurs, arsenal, wolves and no lie, 16 other teams.

[00:01:11] Rohan's career took him from Ecuador to Bangladesh, more dover to Exeter.

[00:01:15] But he still found time to write several books.

[00:01:19] Not only did Rohan write a whole series of kids books,

[00:01:21] you also self published this book Passion for Football in 2013.

[00:01:26] Teaching you all you need to know from youth to pro in just 58 pages.

[00:01:30] Our shortest ever book, but watch the book love think of it.

[00:01:33] Find out in today's football club.

[00:01:36] The whole thing just throws you about that whole time.

[00:01:37] It's like a washing machine.

[00:01:38] I felt like I was in a washing machine.

[00:01:40] This is Rohan Ricketts being RuPaul.

[00:01:43] Ruhan.

[00:01:44] Salsachuta dies from rare fleshy in book.

[00:01:47] If I was to use that will I'd be like fuck.

[00:01:56] Hello and welcome to football book club.

[00:02:00] The only book club where instead of literary classics each episode

[00:02:03] we read another footballers autobiography.

[00:02:06] Less good to more good sir.

[00:02:09] Oh, and that's that one's been sent to us from Rico's in a man in Germany.

[00:02:17] Oh yeah, I can believe it.

[00:02:19] Yeah, very German.

[00:02:21] Very German set of authors and authors puns

[00:02:25] and submitters. Submitters name.

[00:02:29] I very German like dole the complete decision just to not have first name.

[00:02:33] You know what?

[00:02:35] We don't have time.

[00:02:36] I think you know this is.

[00:02:38] Yeah, it's a very short book and we're going to do a very short entry.

[00:02:41] I'm James Berg and over the weeks will be reading such classics as Les Ferdinand's Sir Les

[00:02:47] and Gordon Strackens my life in football.

[00:02:49] Every book is called my life in football.

[00:02:51] Is there any book that's not called my life in football?

[00:02:54] But today we're reading Rohan Ricketts is 2013 book passion for football

[00:02:58] things to know from youth to pro which is a very catchy title in Italy

[00:03:02] and joining me to read it are Jack Bernhardt.

[00:03:05] Hello Natasha Frisco.

[00:03:07] Hello and James Baljan.

[00:03:11] Right, where in a well right?

[00:03:14] He's to the point today after the interview shots.

[00:03:18] Yeah, that's so short.

[00:03:19] You're in a backwards cap you're saying.

[00:03:21] Hey, quickly you're ruffian.

[00:03:24] It's 10 and Kevin.

[00:03:25] Kevin.

[00:03:26] Yeah, you really have 10 to Kevin.

[00:03:27] God, why are you James?

[00:03:29] Welcome everyone.

[00:03:30] How are we all doing?

[00:03:31] Very well.

[00:03:34] Good.

[00:03:35] I know what to be very short on me today is that as Rohan really.

[00:03:38] 58 pages.

[00:03:39] That's all right.

[00:03:40] 58 pages was perfect.

[00:03:42] Perfect.

[00:03:44] I was wondering what you were thought of that because usually.

[00:03:48] I set you a task to read a 300 page book and usually in like two nights.

[00:03:53] This is 58 pages over about two weeks.

[00:03:56] Three.

[00:03:57] Yeah.

[00:03:58] I don't know what works out as about four pages a day.

[00:04:01] I think it was worse than they can't quite work out why.

[00:04:06] It felt longer than that to me.

[00:04:08] Yeah, I think I was reading it on Kindle.

[00:04:10] I didn't have any page numbers so I kind of yes.

[00:04:13] No, I will say the great thing about reading on Kindle is that has a percentage

[00:04:17] of how much you've done and usually it's like you click, you know,

[00:04:20] like three or four pages then finally goes like,

[00:04:22] have a percentage.

[00:04:24] One percent for you.

[00:04:25] Yeah.

[00:04:26] One extra percent.

[00:04:27] This one is like every time you turn a page like five percent.

[00:04:30] Twenty percent.

[00:04:31] Twenty percent.

[00:04:32] How much do you want?

[00:04:33] But going back to the page thing, it says 58 pages but there's never been

[00:04:37] a actual like hardcover or was there not soft cover?

[00:04:41] What's the paperback?

[00:04:42] There's never been an actual book version, a physical book version of this because it was all

[00:04:50] I'm assuming self published by Rohan.

[00:04:53] And yeah, that's why this you know that Rohan is just waiting for the day.

[00:04:57] You can say guys good news out and soft back.

[00:05:00] Yeah, that's very true.

[00:05:05] Rohan, did you know he played for so many clubs?

[00:05:08] No.

[00:05:09] Do you remember Rohan Ricketts?

[00:05:11] That's the next question.

[00:05:13] Yeah.

[00:05:14] I remember his name.

[00:05:15] Yeah.

[00:05:16] At this point, I'm not sure I even remember football.

[00:05:18] I feel like it's like wiped my brain.

[00:05:21] I do remember the name.

[00:05:22] I remember thinking the name was good.

[00:05:23] I didn't actually realize he played for Arsenal.

[00:05:26] Yes, he was one of those very rare players who crossed the North London divide.

[00:05:30] Yeah, he says that he's got the fourth person ever when he did it.

[00:05:34] Yeah.

[00:05:35] He played once for Arsenal in the league cup and then kind of spurs played it.

[00:05:39] But he's in the Netherlands and then he's kind of scraping it to claim that there isn't

[00:05:46] he a bit of the also stuff.

[00:05:48] Yeah, I moved from seven sisters to hybrid.

[00:05:51] I could probably claim that as much as he can.

[00:05:56] And what a career you had.

[00:05:58] Really, really was.

[00:06:00] You're so loud in some sense.

[00:06:02] Yeah, yeah.

[00:06:03] It screamed judo.

[00:06:04] Yeah.

[00:06:05] Yeah.

[00:06:06] Do you hear all the clubs he's played for?

[00:06:08] I've rattled through him.

[00:06:09] If you are, I think it'll be depressing but sure.

[00:06:12] Arsenal spurs.

[00:06:13] Coventry.

[00:06:14] Loan.

[00:06:15] Wolves.

[00:06:16] Loan.

[00:06:17] Wolverhampton.

[00:06:18] Full time.

[00:06:19] This is part time it was just before.

[00:06:20] QPR.

[00:06:21] Barnsley.

[00:06:22] I don't remember those clubs.

[00:06:23] Toronto.

[00:06:24] I don't know how to pronounce the next one but they're Hungarian.

[00:06:26] Jules Curie.

[00:06:27] VTEC.

[00:06:29] It does near Chisnau in Nordova.

[00:06:31] S.V.

[00:06:32] S.V.

[00:06:33] Wilhelm.

[00:06:34] In Germany.

[00:06:35] Shamrock Rovers in Dublin.

[00:06:36] Ray Play against Spurs.

[00:06:37] Exeter.

[00:06:38] DEMPO in India.

[00:06:40] Coveido in Ecuador, I think.

[00:06:42] PTT.

[00:06:43] Rion.

[00:06:44] Don't know whether it is.

[00:06:45] Maybe Bangladesh.

[00:06:46] You played there for a bit.

[00:06:47] Eastern sports club.

[00:06:48] I just think it's Hong Kong or somewhere.

[00:06:50] Abahani limited DACA.

[00:06:52] That's Bangladesh.

[00:06:53] Leatherhead.

[00:06:54] And then a team called Masters football.

[00:06:58] Summer in Asia.

[00:06:59] And that is.

[00:07:00] Have you seen where he is now though?

[00:07:02] Seem when he's up to these days.

[00:07:04] I think I have.

[00:07:06] His Instagram is amazing.

[00:07:09] And he runs a salsa school in Colombia.

[00:07:12] And the posters are incredible.

[00:07:15] They're like graphic design and he's on them all.

[00:07:18] Like swimming in.

[00:07:19] Great.

[00:07:20] And this is definitely the real Rohan Ricketts.

[00:07:22] It is the real deal.

[00:07:24] Wow, okay.

[00:07:25] Yeah.

[00:07:26] He's very good.

[00:07:27] He's got big hands up there.

[00:07:28] Did he play in Colombia?

[00:07:29] No, he played in Ecuador.

[00:07:30] Which is close.

[00:07:31] He's gone around, doesn't he?

[00:07:32] Yeah, she said not to mention.

[00:07:33] He was saying I'm really excited to go to Ecuador.

[00:07:34] Not to mention the fact that there's a continent

[00:07:36] one of my other favorite passions.

[00:07:37] Salsa.

[00:07:38] And at the time didn't know whether you were talking about

[00:07:41] the food or the dance.

[00:07:42] So it's good to know.

[00:07:43] There we go.

[00:07:44] It's actually both.

[00:07:45] He also has the same time.

[00:07:46] And then he cooked salsa in the back of the look.

[00:07:49] I didn't know if he was going to be in the back.

[00:07:51] I didn't know if he was going to be in the back.

[00:07:53] I didn't know if you guys saw this as well, but he also has a podcast.

[00:07:58] So he could really do a comeback.

[00:08:00] If you mean about him, we definitely could have got him on here.

[00:08:05] He has no posts but 99 followers.

[00:08:08] Oh, okay.

[00:08:09] It could be.

[00:08:10] That's pretty good.

[00:08:11] That's pretty good.

[00:08:12] We have 99 posts and no followers.

[00:08:15] So they all are around with us.

[00:08:18] Yeah.

[00:08:20] Yeah.

[00:08:21] So this book was written, I think just after Ecuador before he went to

[00:08:25] PTT, Riong, I guess.

[00:08:27] So we're kind of missing Rohan Records, the even further into

[00:08:31] the wilderness years and the Salsa in Columbia, sadly.

[00:08:34] Yeah.

[00:08:35] But we get a lot of stuff in this 58 pages anyway.

[00:08:38] It's this book is a real mishmash of kind of the Rashford.

[00:08:42] Like Rashford's Euro champion.

[00:08:44] It's a bit like that.

[00:08:45] Part travel diary at times.

[00:08:46] Part just general life lessons.

[00:08:48] Part a bit where a physio just talks about your bones.

[00:08:51] And then part interview with Darren Ben at the end, it really does get

[00:08:56] a lot in there.

[00:08:57] Something for everyone.

[00:08:58] It really is.

[00:08:59] But fundamentally, do you think this, this but I don't want to cast

[00:09:03] us versions.

[00:09:04] I don't want to sort of like, do you think he forgot he was supposed

[00:09:08] to write this book?

[00:09:09] And he just cobbled together as much stuff as possible within like a

[00:09:14] week because sometimes that has the vibe of that.

[00:09:16] Or do you think it's some kind of money laundering scheme?

[00:09:19] What do you think is going on with this?

[00:09:21] I find it fascinating.

[00:09:22] I think we should answer all these questions when we get into

[00:09:26] the book.

[00:09:27] Let's do it.

[00:09:28] Let's read Rohan Ricketts says everything we need to know from youth

[00:09:31] to pro slash passion football.

[00:09:33] It's got two names.

[00:09:34] It's title is longer than the book.

[00:09:38] So over the show, we're going to be going into the book in depth.

[00:09:45] It's really, really, really good to be a death.

[00:09:48] There will be a quiz and all sorts of other fun.

[00:09:50] But first, let's see what Amazon is saying.

[00:09:52] The book has, drummer will please five stars from one rating.

[00:09:59] It's possibly not probably not all surprised by that.

[00:10:02] And the review is from a scape, scape entitled great read kids

[00:10:08] read and pay attention.

[00:10:10] If you're young and have a dream of becoming a pro footballer

[00:10:12] than this book is definitely for you.

[00:10:13] Not only does it give you great advice, it's also an insight into the life of

[00:10:16] Rohan and what he's been through to get Roe is today in the experiences

[00:10:18] you have to go through such as agents and managers opinions.

[00:10:21] So if you love your footballer like Rohan, then have a read.

[00:10:23] There will be something in here to help you on your road to running

[00:10:26] onto that turf and having the fans screaming your name.

[00:10:29] It's almost as long as the book.

[00:10:31] I was going to say it.

[00:10:33] It's really very, very long review.

[00:10:35] Thank you very much, a scape for that.

[00:10:37] But what did you guys all think?

[00:10:38] I mean, Jack, you hinted at something.

[00:10:41] You weren't sure why this book exists or how it exists.

[00:10:46] What is it?

[00:10:48] Yes.

[00:10:49] What are we doing here?

[00:10:51] Not in like just sort of, there's a bit in this.

[00:10:53] I mean the whole thing is mad.

[00:10:55] The structurally, the whole thing doesn't make sense.

[00:10:57] It just sort of like it feels like someone just splurging as many words

[00:11:02] they can possibly get down.

[00:11:03] It feels like a panicked essay when you've forgotten to write.

[00:11:07] You have to write an essay.

[00:11:09] But I don't think he was like art being asked but anyone too write it.

[00:11:12] I guess.

[00:11:13] I think he's done this.

[00:11:14] I knew not because I'm back, I think.

[00:11:15] But I still maybe someone was like,

[00:11:17] hey, Rohan, you've got to write a book by, I don't know, March 2013.

[00:11:22] He was like, sure, I will.

[00:11:23] And then like February 2013, he was like, oh Jesus Christ, I've written anything.

[00:11:28] And then just like, just basically cobbles together through

[00:11:32] a bit of Wikipedia.

[00:11:34] So many liberal uses of bullet points.

[00:11:37] Like he's already written.

[00:11:39] Yes, that are written in the present tense.

[00:11:41] Not even like changed.

[00:11:43] It's a really wild things to read.

[00:11:48] I'm sure it was a New Year's resolution and he got to like December 22nd

[00:11:52] and thought, shits.

[00:11:54] I'm sure it was that.

[00:11:56] And then he had to just, he had to sort of put it out and was like, there you go guys.

[00:11:59] I told you I've written about it.

[00:12:00] I've told you, written about it.

[00:12:01] They published it.

[00:12:02] It's all good.

[00:12:03] So you enjoyed it.

[00:12:04] Yeah, I actually really did.

[00:12:05] And I got a lot out of it.

[00:12:07] Yeah, that's the result.

[00:12:08] But it is just, it's one of those things where like after every chapter,

[00:12:12] every chapter ends with basically like, there we go.

[00:12:16] That's done now onto the next thing.

[00:12:17] And like, here's my life and football.

[00:12:19] A bit on this.

[00:12:20] Hey kids, you should play more football.

[00:12:23] A bit on that.

[00:12:24] There's a world 11.

[00:12:26] Here you go.

[00:12:27] I've had a horrible time mold over.

[00:12:29] And now a physio is going to talk for a bit.

[00:12:32] And hey, Darren Benz here.

[00:12:34] Yeah, and he's just like, you're being, it's like you're being, you've been picked up

[00:12:38] and like carries through a football party.

[00:12:40] And he's just sort of like,

[00:12:43] like just sort of like shoved you in the direction of things for a bit.

[00:12:46] And then gone like, do you like it?

[00:12:47] Is it good?

[00:12:48] That's a football.

[00:12:49] It's so bad.

[00:12:50] It is, it is.

[00:12:52] I get it was around that kind of period when it probably still goes on to this day

[00:12:56] where there were just ebooks being pumped out in like mass foam on Amazon.

[00:13:01] And then he's kind of things.

[00:13:02] And, um, remember it seems like, you know, he's got a podcast.

[00:13:05] Uh, he was doing media thing.

[00:13:06] He seems like a fairly entrepreneurial guy.

[00:13:09] Perhaps he was just like everyone's releasing these kind of books.

[00:13:12] Uh, it doesn't matter how long it is itself published.

[00:13:14] And I don't think he claimed, he says one day he'll write a full autobiography.

[00:13:17] So I don't think he claimed to be that.

[00:13:19] That was what I found scary.

[00:13:21] That was what I found scary.

[00:13:22] That was like a threatening.

[00:13:24] Yeah, really?

[00:13:25] I was in it.

[00:13:26] I mean, he was like, I'm going to save that story from a autobiography.

[00:13:30] I just wanted to grab him and be like, what is this?

[00:13:33] What are you doing?

[00:13:36] What are we doing there, Robert?

[00:13:39] James, you've all you've said so far.

[00:13:41] I was, hey, uh, pretty sure.

[00:13:43] Uh, what did you think of the book?

[00:13:46] Eyes.

[00:13:47] I was going to get to Australia when Jack said it's like when you've forgotten to write an essay.

[00:13:55] And I was like, Jack, that has never happened to you.

[00:13:58] You've never done a book in a row to write an essay.

[00:14:01] Yeah, you've never gone to writing an essay.

[00:14:04] That's true, actually, you're right.

[00:14:06] I've read your notes on books.

[00:14:07] They're basically essays.

[00:14:08] I wrote more notes on books than the book he says.

[00:14:12] I am very sure that is the case.

[00:14:15] But did you quite enjoy it, James?

[00:14:17] Yeah, it was all right.

[00:14:18] I think who is it over you who said that his list of clubs is depressing?

[00:14:23] I actually think if you look at it in a different way,

[00:14:26] he's like, he's lived in like how many different countries in the world for like one year at a time.

[00:14:31] I agree with you.

[00:14:32] It's like football.

[00:14:33] What a great experience he's had.

[00:14:34] Yeah.

[00:14:35] I mean, he's played like seven games for each of them, but yeah,

[00:14:39] I do.

[00:14:40] I experience.

[00:14:41] So yeah, that I think that's a great way of looking at it.

[00:14:45] I also do find it quite sad because so many times in this book he says something along the lines of,

[00:14:50] maybe this one's the one and then the next chapter is well off I go again.

[00:14:55] Yeah, yeah, which I found very sad.

[00:14:58] I do.

[00:14:59] Where is he being?

[00:15:00] He's been Canada.

[00:15:02] Moldova wasn't a great one, but he's lived in Ireland.

[00:15:05] He's lived in India.

[00:15:06] Corn, Ecuador, India.

[00:15:08] Yeah, Thailand was one of the things.

[00:15:10] Yeah, Thailand, I think.

[00:15:11] And Coventry.

[00:15:13] Yeah, I don't know.

[00:15:15] I think it's quite easy.

[00:15:16] And now we see in salsa.

[00:15:17] What a great life.

[00:15:18] I kind of agree with this.

[00:15:20] I mean, I think he's probably disappointed that is he didn't.

[00:15:23] I think he went in some of these clubs.

[00:15:24] He went to Toronto, didn't he?

[00:15:25] And then he said that the team didn't take it very seriously.

[00:15:27] So he struggled to find a club after that.

[00:15:29] I was really sad.

[00:15:30] Yeah, I think that's sad as well.

[00:15:32] Why do you think that is?

[00:15:33] Well, he just not good because he said he struggled to find a championship club.

[00:15:36] They didn't take him seriously after the MLS, which I don't fully buy.

[00:15:40] It was probably before Drake convinced him and though,

[00:15:43] designed for Toronto and legitimized FC Toronto.

[00:15:47] Probably true to extent.

[00:15:49] Ah, the pre-Drake you.

[00:15:51] Yeah.

[00:15:52] But I actually found the book kind of fun in a very different way because

[00:15:59] Rohan is like a bit of an outsider throughout it.

[00:16:02] He feels like he doesn't really feel like he's not quite as polished as some football,

[00:16:06] as you see in some things and he hasn't had this like attachment.

[00:16:10] He's not really going for like a cult following to fans and stuff like that

[00:16:14] and doing fan service because he was never a club long after doing that.

[00:16:17] And he's not really like a hugely established figure in the game just by having a good career playing.

[00:16:22] So you kind of get these unusual insights into footballers,

[00:16:24] which are only you really get in this book compared to the other ones we do.

[00:16:28] And there was two I wanted to bring up which we wouldn't get any other book.

[00:16:31] It's just show how footballers and the very strange unusual lights.

[00:16:36] One was when he was at Wolves and apparently Paulins kept calling him up

[00:16:41] in the middle of the night to tell to talk about how far he could go in his belief in him.

[00:16:46] Which I thought was really funny. And the second one was when he's a spurs

[00:16:51] he's struggling to play and he goes redding.

[00:16:55] He tries to go on loan to redding and he's wondering what goes on with it

[00:16:58] and he rings the spurs Kertegaboss David plea.

[00:17:00] And David fleet says to him, you ain't going anywhere and how did you get my number?

[00:17:05] And then he hung up.

[00:17:07] These are baffling.

[00:17:10] There's no like gloss over any of this.

[00:17:12] It seems like footballers just seem totally weird in this book.

[00:17:17] I feel like they don't even try to make them seem like normal people.

[00:17:21] They're either like huge, really, really angry or like really sympathetic.

[00:17:26] I think he really sees like he sees footballers as their own entity.

[00:17:32] He sees them as like a special breed of human that has specific traits.

[00:17:39] And this book is for them and it's not for like normies like us.

[00:17:44] I do sort of think I do wonder you're right.

[00:17:47] There's a little bit of this book where he's like, well, this is for if you want to be a footballer.

[00:17:52] And at times I think it's sort of you almost forgets that half the time

[00:17:57] and then sort of jumps back into it sometimes as well.

[00:18:00] He seems to sort of go like here we go.

[00:18:02] This is what you need to know if you're a footballer.

[00:18:04] Now here's my experiences on this anyway, back to being a footballer.

[00:18:07] Like he doesn't sort of I think he has so many weird and amazing stories.

[00:18:12] There's also a story that he talks about with Steve Sivwell that really makes me love it.

[00:18:17] It's not it's not the funny is I think it's because he doesn't present it as like funny story.

[00:18:23] Exactly.

[00:18:24] Exactly.

[00:18:25] There's a bit where he's basically he's in training.

[00:18:27] I think it's an arsenal or I think it was an arsenal.

[00:18:30] Let's see.

[00:18:31] Sivwell is a youth player there.

[00:18:32] And it's I think Pat Rice sort of is trying to point out to a big time Charlie that he's not you know trying hard enough.

[00:18:40] He points to Steve Sivwell and goes like, right that guy over there he doesn't have anywhere near as much as you do.

[00:18:47] But he always makes sure his shoes are clean and he comes in on time.

[00:18:50] And I was like, he never had the Ricketts like and that was great.

[00:18:54] And apart me was like, geez if I was Steve Sivwell I'd be like fuck.

[00:18:59] This guy's useless.

[00:19:01] He's here.

[00:19:02] He said he's useless but he's clean.

[00:19:05] He's got clean shoes.

[00:19:07] That is the bare minimum.

[00:19:12] But it is I think it's quite a it just needed basically an editor.

[00:19:19] I would say it needs an editor to come in and be like, okay what are we actually thematically what are we doing?

[00:19:25] Like what are we actually hoping to achieve?

[00:19:27] But it feels quite slap dash and everything's throwing together.

[00:19:30] And that does give you massively wonderful moments of like yeah the David Pleatbett is hilarious and the Paulants bit is really funny.

[00:19:37] But it also just it feels like your head spins is spinning half the time which is great but very confusing.

[00:19:44] Was there any bit in particular that really made you feel like that in the book?

[00:19:48] I mean, I think the start is particularly mad in terms of like him just talking about his career.

[00:19:54] And sort of he's trying to set up like what his career was like and there's a bit where he's like I had a great time at Arsenal.

[00:20:00] Arsenal things were going great.

[00:20:01] Arsenal Venga was really nice.

[00:20:03] Later that day I moved to Tottenham.

[00:20:05] Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it is literally like whoa hang on you like any any more depth into that anymore like just an insight into what it was like too as as past says it was he barely crossed the divide because he barely played for us.

[00:20:19] It's still it's still something that you would like to go into more detail about the season is very casual to be like what if I popped a spurs and then like within the next paragraph he's like and and spurs.

[00:20:30] I had a nice I won nice season that spurs and then I got a side line by Martin Yolk then I play for wolves now here I am an Ecuador and I was like what was happening here?

[00:20:39] Where are we where are we what's going on Rohan and I think it just the whole thing makes you it just it just throws you about the whole time it's like a washing machine.

[00:20:51] I felt like I was in a washing machine my favorite example of that was he signs for Exeter and he goes I'm now please I love this but so much sorry I know please be able to say that I'm officially back in English football I've signed with Exeter City

[00:21:04] and I can't and I can't wait to get out on the pitch and play my part in the running nothing beats playing over here.

[00:21:09] I'm going to make the most every minute on the pitch it's time to start the next chapter next chapter entitled goodbye extra.

[00:21:16] Sorry I've been quite in here my Twitter for the last few days I've left Exeter space straight away straight away but this is what I mean like from an editor perspective like if you if you were a ghost right or something you'd be like this is golf I can use all of this and turns into a good thing

[00:21:31] but because like there's literally it there's no editing that has been done to it.

[00:21:36] It's sort of means that you're you are just sort of like thrown around like the fact he has literally taken his I guess is blog.

[00:21:43] His he hasn't changed it hasn't changed a bit of it off row.

[00:21:47] I guess yeah it means that you sort of are there's nothing to grab on to although can I very quickly talk about the cover.

[00:21:56] Oh God the cover yeah the cover is so good it is it is a it is a masterpiece of someone who doesn't know what font they want to use.

[00:22:08] Okay.

[00:22:11] I'll give it through again I'm trying to get back up my screen again how is there's a there's a football on it remember that so the cover is a stock image of the foot all pitch for the corner bit and then a very cheap stock image of a football

[00:22:26] and then has three fonts one is passion for football that is sort of done like a tattoo parlor I would say.

[00:22:35] Yeah kind of yeah real like steam punk it looks like steam punk with like a with also like like paintball has been shot at the A and the other but also with weird like flourishes on it then papyrus for things to know from you.

[00:22:51] Yes classic the p the pester resistance is the Rohan Ricketts at the bottom is done in a complete different font that I assume is the stock image for a romance novel like it's definitely yes it really is very mils of

[00:23:07] so much yeah it's so much that and like the are the are of our own Rohan and Ricketts is like in a sexy red and the other letters are in a black it looks so much like the color should be.

[00:23:21] Yeah oh sweet my one hasn't got no my kid I didn't have color I just really know it's I thought everyone's kind of was black and white.

[00:23:29] It's beautiful. It looks like it looks like the title of the book should be called like what's the books and butler so like it's yeah yeah

[00:23:39] like that jelly Cooper football yes yeah yeah yeah yeah and James when you said like there was a time when everyone was putting stuff on ebooks I think maybe at one point I wonder if this was going to be a romantic like

[00:23:52] yeah passion for football yeah well I mean to know from now it's a very very passionate dance salsa I mean the title of the book passion for football things to know from you

[00:24:04] could be you know passion for football so it's like this the tale of like an assistant manager and a an up and coming player and have like a fire

[00:24:16] romance and things to know I was thinking it could be like the idea of youth to pro in there so yeah I was semi committing to it and then I got

[00:24:25] to use the problem like I'll pull out now I think you can be a guide for how to be a one okay that's close to know from

[00:24:32] youth to pro you know yeah okay I can kind of see that I can kind of see that no the cover is nonsense

[00:24:40] and the way of jumps around like maybe I wonder perhaps if he was like pitching the book in some way like pitching like I might want to write an

[00:24:48] autobiography these are seven of the things it could be it could be either like a guy to be a footballer could be my life and he has

[00:24:54] obviously I think you know to buy me that to be really interesting he's lived such a great life he's been to so many countries I would

[00:24:59] read I generally would and some of the little like glimpses we get into which will come to later that she actually really

[00:25:04] entertaining and really really really totally unique for a British football probably who people have actually heard of like I'm sure

[00:25:12] there's plenty of journey men footballers who we don't really know of who travel all around the world and play these kind of in far far

[00:25:18] far away countries and that but where I'm rick is to someone who is fairly well known to most people who grew up in the

[00:25:25] night naughties watching Premier League football and stuff so it's a do you know how we could get this autobiography written we need

[00:25:30] to start the decision to get him on strictly oh okay yeah and you know what with the salsa exactly imagine

[00:25:38] yeah would he do the the Colombian version of strictly or the UK version of strictly the UK version and then write your

[00:25:45] autobiography I reckon okay yeah well you know I reckon he could do one night in the the UK strictly then not get his

[00:25:53] contraction you'd then go to Colombia and then they just go around around all the strictly in the world I'd have to say

[00:26:01] though one thing it has got all these various different things which are quite fun to dip it in out of but one

[00:26:06] thing that is not fun is the paragraph into it's at the chapter entitled dealing with injuries by Matthew Moose

[00:26:13] sports psychologist of fundamentals it's the dullest chapter I've ever read in a book whoever Matias Moose is he

[00:26:20] has submitted absolute nonsense it's just like here's how you can look after your body okay bye and it's not

[00:26:29] particularly at one point he explains what protein is yeah that's gonna be part of the quiz

[00:26:34] what is a carbohydrate yeah yeah yeah no it's that was a truly truly truly boring that

[00:26:43] sorry but again it but it's so I didn't need to be in that what do you think what do you think Rohan told

[00:26:49] this him this book was like was he like oh it's a textbook I'm making a textbook on how to be a

[00:26:54] footballer it's quite it's quite always you can get someone else to finish your book for you as

[00:27:00] opposed to actually having to write your own book just asking Zesh Raymond Maurice Edu and

[00:27:04] just Tom Huddleston just to write a Darren Bent Darren Benton just to write a little chapter for that if

[00:27:09] he asked another like I think you mean Tom Huddleston yeah Tom Huddleston hi guys it's me Tom

[00:27:16] Huddleston great to be here I played for Darby Hull every single sentence Tom Huddleston wrote

[00:27:22] had an exclamation mark every single one is incredible and it was so he's not a thoroughly enthusiastic

[00:27:28] person when you hear him talk either it's really really untomable just in behavior but that really

[00:27:33] says that there was no sub-editor involved in this doesn't it was like you know maybe she's

[00:27:37] like tonally just yeah Tom Huddleston I really want to get Neema from Tom Huddleston now though

[00:27:44] hey you most high energy email stop talking about me on podcasts bye

[00:27:49] you'll live to regret it okay thanks why

[00:27:51] yes

[00:27:56] tash yes tell us about facts oh yes about

[00:28:02] well I mean you know I love a pop culture reference and they've spoke to myself because

[00:28:09] this is Rohan Ricketts being RuPaul RuPaul's got charisma uniqueness nerve and talent

[00:28:16] and Rohan Ricketts has got facts focus attitude confidence tenacity and skill

[00:28:22] yes yeah Ruhan and he lays it out you know yeah Ruhan yeah

[00:28:30] the Ruhan flu I mean he lays out like to go around that

[00:28:35] well well well he's joking to Rohan Ricketts book you jumping all over the place

[00:28:38] But chapter two is dedicated to him going through each of those letters individually.

[00:28:45] And I mean, he very earnest and I do get the vibe that he's kind of genuinely rooting for people to succeed.

[00:28:52] And that's why he's doing this.

[00:28:54] But it does have quite a hint of Steve and Bartlet about it.

[00:28:59] Do you know what I mean?

[00:29:01] If Instagram was a big thing when this came out,

[00:29:04] imagine he would have got a big following of like work, Rose.

[00:29:07] He just sort of spits these non-secateurs about if you get up at 5am and don't play the Xbox and drink you all.

[00:29:15] You know, you can come up with a couple more.

[00:29:17] I reckon Rohan's is are absolutely filled with those seeds.

[00:29:20] Yes.

[00:29:21] Yes.

[00:29:22] Oh, I agree that there is a bit like about like don't look at Games consoles.

[00:29:28] They're bad.

[00:29:29] That kind of thing.

[00:29:30] I mean, you know, as a footballer who has like to boast himself to this,

[00:29:35] I can kind of see why that's so fresh in his mind.

[00:29:39] But also how I don't actually think it was that bad some of it in there.

[00:29:43] I think like compare it to Rashford's book, which was good doing it.

[00:29:46] And this isn't like noticeably worse than that he's just a much less well-known footballer.

[00:29:50] But it's the way that he words some of it.

[00:29:52] I mean, he spends longer discussing focus, just focus than he does in a entire career.

[00:29:59] I did pick out some keyquights from each of them just to give you an idea of kind of what's going on.

[00:30:04] I'm sorry, I'm sorry for that because focus.

[00:30:07] The world around you can be your biggest enemy.

[00:30:09] You can be different.

[00:30:11] Do your best to avoid temptation that you will be confronted by.

[00:30:14] Number one, see, it's a bit culty, you know what I mean?

[00:30:17] Attitude.

[00:30:18] Football is a team game so what you do as an individual has repercussions.

[00:30:21] You must play your part.

[00:30:23] You're going to be disciplined and follow the code of conduct.

[00:30:26] And you mustn't show weakness as that will bring you down.

[00:30:29] It sounds like a horoscope.

[00:30:31] Yeah, all I can know.

[00:30:32] My favorite one was.

[00:30:33] The fortune cookie.

[00:30:34] Yeah, this one is very fortune cookie.

[00:30:36] If you have the ability to program your mind to think the right way,

[00:30:39] the world around you will bother you less.

[00:30:41] Oh, why don't...

[00:30:43] That means he's right at that to an extent.

[00:30:46] He is, he's right with it all but it's just...

[00:30:49] It's just very straight.

[00:30:50] It's such a strange book.

[00:30:52] It's like this whole section was like self-help, like nonsense,

[00:30:57] but packaged up with football terminology.

[00:31:00] They were so generic.

[00:31:02] But then he's so sincere.

[00:31:04] I don't know if it's just my like bittersweeted heart being mean.

[00:31:08] I thought it was all right.

[00:31:11] I read this book and I've since I have signed for a team in Colombia.

[00:31:19] Everything's kind of going well for me actually.

[00:31:21] Yeah, well, you say that James.

[00:31:24] There are times in the fact spit that sort of remind me,

[00:31:28] I'm going to do the mandatory Simpson's quote.

[00:31:31] Mr. Burns says family religion, friendship.

[00:31:34] These are the three demons he must slave to which to succeed in business.

[00:31:37] It sort of reminds me of that where it's like...

[00:31:40] That is a...

[00:31:41] You've got to really be the most driven.

[00:31:44] And it is also weird because obviously Rohan has had...

[00:31:47] Has had a very, very interesting career.

[00:31:50] But it's not...

[00:31:51] It has a slightly different kind of weight if say, you know,

[00:31:54] Tariya Marie or someone is telling to you than someone like Rohan

[00:31:58] where you're sort of like...

[00:32:00] Again, that sounds like I'm being so mean to Rohan.

[00:32:02] No, no, it is true.

[00:32:03] There's a more interesting...

[00:32:05] Anyone can say these things.

[00:32:06] There's a more interesting story that Rohan would tell about us.

[00:32:09] Yes.

[00:32:10] Hey, I've been around the world and it's really weird.

[00:32:13] Instead of be like some, you know, euphemisms about...

[00:32:16] You know, you're not going to succeed.

[00:32:18] Try your best and you'll never give up.

[00:32:20] There's a bit that I think summed it up which was...

[00:32:23] The first one is focused and that's the first one in fact.

[00:32:27] And you know it's going to be long because this is the sentence.

[00:32:30] In my experience, those who have a great desire to succeed

[00:32:33] are more often than not the ones who do succeed.

[00:32:36] Oh boy!

[00:32:38] Oh boy!

[00:32:40] Here we go.

[00:32:42] Yeah.

[00:32:43] Some bits are wiser than others.

[00:32:45] I've come there which was...

[00:32:47] One thing I always say to people who are not first choice or valued as highly as they think they should be

[00:32:50] is that not everyone likes Coca-Cola,

[00:32:52] despite it being the most popular drink in the world.

[00:32:54] What is right for one person is not necessarily right for another

[00:32:57] and nowhere is this true in the world of football.

[00:32:59] That basically boils down to...

[00:33:01] Not everyone likes Coke.

[00:33:02] Some people like shitty alternatives.

[00:33:04] Like Steve Subwell!

[00:33:06] I thought...

[00:33:08] What I want to know about that one is he Coke?

[00:33:10] No, I think he is.

[00:33:12] I think he's like...

[00:33:13] Coca-Cola.

[00:33:14] Ooh, I don't know what Coca-Cola is.

[00:33:16] What the Coca-Cola is!

[00:33:17] What the Coca-Cola is?

[00:33:18] I think so.

[00:33:19] I mean Panda Cola.

[00:33:20] Can you never watch Danny Peter K?

[00:33:23] Is that too low-brow for you guys?

[00:33:25] I like Peter Cola.

[00:33:26] I like Peter K.

[00:33:27] I like Peter K.

[00:33:28] I like Peter K.

[00:33:29] I like Peter K.

[00:33:30] He has a whole sketch about roller-cola.

[00:33:31] It's like the cola your mom gets from the shop because you're not...

[00:33:33] This is real stuff to expense it.

[00:33:35] Okay, okay.

[00:33:36] I have Panda Cola.

[00:33:37] I'm Panda Cola from late school discos.

[00:33:39] Well, I Panda pops.

[00:33:40] Yes.

[00:33:41] Yeah, yeah.

[00:33:42] You're right, you're the best.

[00:33:43] I buy by a little straw.

[00:33:44] No, it's a capri-sun.

[00:33:45] No, you're not a drinker.

[00:33:46] What are we doing here?

[00:33:47] We're not drinking.

[00:33:48] What are we doing here?

[00:33:49] We're not drinking.

[00:33:50] Do we move onto our context, Rohan Rickard?

[00:33:53] Yes.

[00:33:54] Yeah.

[00:33:55] Can I just say, you stole many of my outer contexts.

[00:33:56] Okay.

[00:33:57] Yeah.

[00:33:58] Why?

[00:33:59] You're almost...

[00:34:00] That's a capri-sun.

[00:34:01] It's going to be your...

[00:34:02] Yeah.

[00:34:03] So...

[00:34:04] In which case, Jack, I thought you'd think about your next...

[00:34:07] Who's got one James?

[00:34:08] You've got an outer context.

[00:34:09] I've got two.

[00:34:10] You've got an outer context.

[00:34:11] I've got two do-one for the first time.

[00:34:13] Oh my god, you didn't...

[00:34:14] You turned your cap backwards.

[00:34:15] You said you didn't.

[00:34:16] You said you didn't.

[00:34:17] You said you didn't.

[00:34:18] Yeah, sure.

[00:34:19] I couldn't even...

[00:34:20] Oh my god.

[00:34:21] Oh my god.

[00:34:22] Back of the class.

[00:34:23] I could probably find one by just...

[00:34:25] Yeah, it's just...

[00:34:26] You could.

[00:34:27] Yeah, you find the first thing.

[00:34:28] Find any sentence.

[00:34:29] Find any sentence.

[00:34:30] There you go.

[00:34:31] That's your task for a new second.

[00:34:32] Tash.

[00:34:33] Yes, please kick off.

[00:34:34] Um, he quotes a non.

[00:34:36] Oh my god.

[00:34:37] And the quote that he quotes is...

[00:34:39] It's one thing to get in position,

[00:34:41] but another to maintain a position.

[00:34:43] D.

[00:34:44] I agree.

[00:34:45] And that does sound like passion for football.

[00:34:47] That could be the pull point at the front, basically.

[00:34:50] Yeah.

[00:34:51] But can I also just say like...

[00:34:53] A non has many great quotes.

[00:34:55] I did.

[00:34:56] Yeah.

[00:34:57] I know one is not taking that one.

[00:34:59] And a great thing, Chris.

[00:35:00] And a non is not taking that one.

[00:35:01] And a non's like, you know what world?

[00:35:02] You can have that one.

[00:35:03] What?

[00:35:04] Jack, what's your one?

[00:35:08] Questions arise such as, well we have to send the kids to a new school again.

[00:35:12] Do we have to sell our house again?

[00:35:14] Daddy, why do we keep moving?

[00:35:17] Don't make it sexy with the daddy.

[00:35:21] Oh, Daddy.

[00:35:22] Why do we keep moving?

[00:35:24] Come on, man.

[00:35:26] Um, what, what, what sexy books are you reading when they say daddy?

[00:35:31] Do we have to keep moving?

[00:35:33] I agree.

[00:35:34] Yeah, I agree with love.

[00:35:36] As you can see, I showed you just before we came on.

[00:35:38] The only thing that I get suggested now on Kindle is Ron Atkinson, my autobiography.

[00:35:43] That is a...

[00:35:45] And he doesn't think you're going to say daddy.

[00:35:46] I don't hope he doesn't.

[00:35:48] My, actually, my context on that note is if my dad had more commercial experience,

[00:35:54] he could have been my agent but he's an electrician.

[00:35:56] That's what I'm talking about.

[00:36:02] James, did you find anything?

[00:36:05] I haven't.

[00:36:06] Let me just find, read the first thing out.

[00:36:08] Okay.

[00:36:09] I have played football in some wonderful and some terrible places around the world of the players.

[00:36:13] Oh, yeah.

[00:36:14] But now I really want to get back to the birthplace of footballs continue my career.

[00:36:18] That was literally the first thing that happened.

[00:36:20] Okay, yep, that was it.

[00:36:22] The terrible bit really stuck out when he mentioned that, I remember that.

[00:36:25] Another one on the daddy theme which was just he was an interactive dad.

[00:36:30] Which I didn't know.

[00:36:31] Oh, yeah.

[00:36:32] I remember that.

[00:36:33] He was an interactive dad.

[00:36:34] He was an interactive dad.

[00:36:35] He was an interactive dad.

[00:36:36] Do you guys remember when interactive dads came out?

[00:36:38] Yeah, yeah.

[00:36:39] It was incredible.

[00:36:40] You got, they got a Weebix.

[00:36:41] Yeah.

[00:36:42] Interactive dad.

[00:36:44] Before that, dads were so...

[00:36:46] They just didn't...

[00:36:47] They just...

[00:36:48] You couldn't interact with them at all.

[00:36:50] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:36:51] Now they were revolutionized at the 90s.

[00:36:53] Time now for a break but when we return, we'll be heading off on a doom trip to Moldova.

[00:36:58] See you then.

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[00:41:31] Welcome back to Footlebook Club where we are still reading

[00:41:34] Rohan Ricketts is passion for football.

[00:41:37] James, you're going to take us to Eastern Europe?

[00:41:41] Yeah, let me just...

[00:41:43] I searched salsa before, just so I could have a look at it.

[00:41:46] And the top thing that came up was some of the saddest events in the history of salsa world.

[00:41:51] And a couple from the top.

[00:41:53] Salcitude to dies from rare flesh eating bug.

[00:41:56] Oh God!

[00:41:57] Why is this website?

[00:41:59] I just searched salsa and the top thing that comes up.

[00:42:02] Oh, Google!

[00:42:04] Yeah, salsa for all is absolutely...

[00:42:06] The first thing that comes up on salsa on Google is salsa to get eaten by flesh eating.

[00:42:10] The first thing that comes up as salsa on Google.

[00:42:15] And someone died of a heart attack during a concert,

[00:42:18] so I'll just close that window.

[00:42:20] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:42:22] Get to...

[00:42:23] All the best to Rohan and his salsa.

[00:42:27] Yeah, so the funniest thing about this is his horrible spell in Moldova.

[00:42:33] The chapter 4 is called Surround yourself with positive influences

[00:42:37] and then chapter 6 is called Choosing the Right Team for You.

[00:42:40] And then immediately after that it's my Moldova nightmare, the most bizarre.

[00:42:44] Yes, it's just...

[00:42:46] So he's just left Toronto, I think,

[00:42:49] he's been released by Toronto.

[00:42:52] And he thinks that he's going to easily join a championship club,

[00:42:55] but they don't.

[00:42:57] Nobody wants him basically.

[00:42:59] I think he tried Scotland and he couldn't get up there.

[00:43:02] Yeah, Aberdeen.

[00:43:03] So naturally, his next port call was the Hungarian Premier League.

[00:43:08] Yeah, because he messaged Martin Phillips dad, as he says,

[00:43:12] who's called Frank Phillips, which is a very funny name in middle.

[00:43:18] It sounds like the kind of thing you'd get in passion for football.

[00:43:23] And in Hungary it didn't really work out.

[00:43:25] He didn't get paid and I don't think any of like three managers and four months.

[00:43:29] He had no choice really, but to take a move to Moldova.

[00:43:33] And the first thing he says is the agent who took me to Moldova

[00:43:37] said that we treat you professionally and the club would follow the contract as the agreement stated.

[00:43:43] I mean, that's already a red flag.

[00:43:46] Like they're having to say that.

[00:43:48] Imagine you were just saying,

[00:43:50] like, look, this food will be edible.

[00:43:53] And we will bring you your order.

[00:43:55] You'll be like, I'm going to min it.

[00:43:57] But he sticks with it.

[00:43:59] I don't want you to die from a flesh eating disease at the salsa lesser.

[00:44:03] Well,

[00:44:05] but yeah, in a nutshell, it's just a nightmare.

[00:44:07] They don't pay him.

[00:44:08] I don't think they pay him ever, do they?

[00:44:10] No, no.

[00:44:11] Well, we do have for three months.

[00:44:12] I think after like a month or so, he starts catching on something's not quite right.

[00:44:17] And they just keep, they're just lying to him, right there.

[00:44:20] They're like, they're taking him to like,

[00:44:23] he keeps falling out with the guy called Leonid or something like that, isn't it?

[00:44:26] Yeah, he was like the, oh, that is agent.

[00:44:29] I think it's his agent.

[00:44:30] I know he took him that.

[00:44:31] Oh, sorry.

[00:44:32] I thought it was the chairman of the club.

[00:44:33] But yeah, he keeps having arguments this guy and he falls out with the president who says he's slacking him off

[00:44:38] in on his blog or something or an article that he was writing,

[00:44:42] which happens a few times in the book actually.

[00:44:44] So maybe he shouldn't have been writing so many things on there.

[00:44:47] But also he gets some.

[00:44:48] But James, if he didn't, he wouldn't have this book.

[00:44:51] That would have no material for this book.

[00:44:53] So he's like, I'm not sure what that is.

[00:44:55] That is very true.

[00:44:56] One point has to go like, again, like the Simpsons, he has to go like,

[00:45:00] put a big cowboy hat on.

[00:45:01] That might not be true that big.

[00:45:02] Yeah, that has to be like a mole in the dressing room and he has to like bug them.

[00:45:07] Like it goes into like him so he can get something on record for FIFA.

[00:45:12] I think it is so they can pay him.

[00:45:13] Yeah, because he asked for FIFA's help.

[00:45:15] And they're like, oh, we'll help you in three months, not right now.

[00:45:18] Yeah, he's like, what?

[00:45:19] So he just has to sit out for three months and just collect evidence.

[00:45:22] You have to leave the country in the next 12 hours.

[00:45:25] Yeah, yeah.

[00:45:26] Why are they kicking out of the hole of more dough?

[00:45:28] But like this is such an interesting story.

[00:45:29] Why is why we got like a whole chapter on facts and like this is just a paragraph.

[00:45:35] Yeah, I totally agree.

[00:45:37] It goes back to what is this book because I think there's a,

[00:45:40] there's it sort of reminded me of the Doriah's Fissell chapter.

[00:45:44] I could just do a budget version of the Doriah's Fissell chapter where you're sort of just,

[00:45:48] you really want by the end of it.

[00:45:51] I was really invested in what happened to him,

[00:45:53] whether he got the money back, what's going on?

[00:45:55] Did he play at all for this club like the intricacies of like Moldovan politics and all the rest of it?

[00:46:02] It seemed really interesting but we don't ever really get any kind of resolution except like,

[00:46:06] hopefully I'll get paid at some point.

[00:46:08] Fascinating.

[00:46:09] But they didn't because it's not like they brought him over and they were playing him and he was their best player

[00:46:13] and they were just trying to pay him.

[00:46:15] He wasn't even playing.

[00:46:16] He played like two games for them or something.

[00:46:18] But they tried to not play him when he's like complaining, right?

[00:46:20] Isn't that what it is?

[00:46:21] Like if he's kicking up a fuss about not being paid then that will always not going to play you.

[00:46:24] Yeah but why didn't M in the first place?

[00:46:26] Yeah that's true.

[00:46:27] They didn't play him in the first place either.

[00:46:28] Oh I see but they're not okay.

[00:46:30] Yeah I wasn't very good.

[00:46:32] They keep saying to him like in three days we'll pay you for like three months and then they keep saying like,

[00:46:38] you need to leave this hotel and this country right now or else.

[00:46:41] And he's like, what?

[00:46:42] I had a job like that.

[00:46:43] But it was really demoralising.

[00:46:44] I used to be in the back when I was a face painter at the tower.

[00:46:48] That's what they used to do.

[00:46:49] Wow.

[00:46:50] I just went on strike and was like, not coming.

[00:46:52] And there was no face painting that day.

[00:46:54] You need to leave UK as immediately.

[00:47:01] You don't have auto towers.

[00:47:03] And then you end up there.

[00:47:05] Isn't that when you met Grant Holp?

[00:47:07] Yes.

[00:47:08] When you potentially face painting Grant Holp.

[00:47:10] Yeah.

[00:47:12] Same time.

[00:47:13] And I wasn't being paid see?

[00:47:15] Fuck wow.

[00:47:16] I know.

[00:47:17] It shows you a debt of gratitude.

[00:47:18] I know.

[00:47:19] And you're living in a hotel in Moldova.

[00:47:22] The commute was killing you too long.

[00:47:24] Really, really long.

[00:47:25] Yeah.

[00:47:28] We never find out the resolution because this book is written like not very long after that.

[00:47:34] I guess it's probably was an ongoing thing.

[00:47:35] Maybe he still hasn't been paid to this day.

[00:47:38] Well, it's weird because he reveals a whole story in there.

[00:47:40] But then he's like, I'm not going to I'm not going to disrespect the club and read their reputation by telling everyone.

[00:47:45] But then he's literally writing in the book.

[00:47:47] He doesn't know no one's going to read it.

[00:47:49] It does they exactly.

[00:47:51] Hey, we read it.

[00:47:52] We know.

[00:47:54] I wonder if he's got like the stats and he's gone fucking hell.

[00:47:58] Four people have bought this book this week.

[00:48:00] Actually, actually, I noticed that it went down.

[00:48:04] It dropped in price.

[00:48:06] It been three pound like 50.

[00:48:08] You're saying, and it's just dropped to two pound fifty today.

[00:48:10] So I have we've influenced that but I even got things saying lowest price in 30 days.

[00:48:16] I'm not going to make that out.

[00:48:19] I want to pay tribute to the true unsung hero of this book.

[00:48:27] Yeah.

[00:48:28] A man who appears for the first time about two thirds of the way through the book despite having been with Rohan seemingly his whole career.

[00:48:35] From a very young age.

[00:48:37] He's a man who's kind of helped Rohan make decisions throughout.

[00:48:42] A man Rohan respects is his trusted agents and also he appears to be primarily a black cab driver.

[00:48:50] According to Rohan anyway, this man, this man is Eric Walsers.

[00:48:55] We mentioned how his diagonal agent but he says in the electrician so he can do it.

[00:49:01] So then Rohan for some reason seems to go with a taxi driver.

[00:49:05] It's dead as though that's any better than an electrician.

[00:49:08] I don't really understand it.

[00:49:10] At any point he says, I got my first agent when I was 16 and his name is Eric Walsers.

[00:49:14] At the time he had a very small business in drove a black cab.

[00:49:17] Some of the other players that asked me or used to laugh at him because he wasn't big time.

[00:49:20] That's a taxi driver.

[00:49:23] That's why.

[00:49:24] He turned up on his taxi and when others took the mic he would just say,

[00:49:28] I don't need that flashy stuff.

[00:49:30] I love this guy.

[00:49:32] So fun.

[00:49:35] He's also like Rohan says he was an agent, a life coach and a philosopher all rolled into one.

[00:49:41] And you kind of get this image that he's like,

[00:49:44] you know, like a classic kind of black cab driver go mad and learn or something like that or

[00:49:48] like a bit of a gizary character.

[00:49:50] And then they let and then Rohan has really upset because he leaves

[00:49:54] because he tells him like not to waste his money and stuff on things.

[00:49:58] He doesn't want to hear that at the time.

[00:49:59] And then Rohan writes, I really regret it.

[00:50:00] It was about a state to get rid of him.

[00:50:02] However, I looked into it afterwards.

[00:50:03] Where's Rohan paints him in this light?

[00:50:05] It's been a black cab driver.

[00:50:07] Apparently this guy is like now an agent who works for CAA as a as a

[00:50:14] reparation and like represents actually young and stuff this guy.

[00:50:17] He's like usually gone up afterwards or Rohan is painting him in the most unflattering light

[00:50:22] in the book and no wonder he left.

[00:50:24] I don't know why Tash decided to go on Eric Walters' Instagram as opposed to Rohan

[00:50:30] and Rick is a Instagram which made much more sense.

[00:50:34] But yeah, also actually young is still going strong at 38-39 wherever he is.

[00:50:38] What a great client actually young must have been.

[00:50:41] If he is actually, I mean there's a few pictures of him actually young.

[00:50:43] So I'm assuming he's his age.

[00:50:44] But yeah, he seems to represent a few decent players.

[00:50:46] Maybe he just was taking him on his black cab.

[00:50:49] Yeah, possibly.

[00:50:52] I mean, it is also weird because Arsenal like the Arsenal players laugh at him but they also say

[00:50:57] where's your dad Eric?

[00:50:58] So he's

[00:50:59] I'm imagining him in like a massive suit and he's like 60 driving a black cab.

[00:51:04] Yeah, I mean, the pictures I saw he probably looked 50s maybe.

[00:51:09] So I guess he would have been quite young around that time.

[00:51:11] I guess what Rohan Rick must have been an Arsenal late 90s kind of times.

[00:51:14] Like probably about 25 years ago.

[00:51:16] Yeah, so it's it is a very weird thing.

[00:51:20] And I do sort of, I wonder how much of this book is just because he does turn up very late in this book as you say.

[00:51:25] But I wonder how much of this book is literally just a desperate plea to get him back?

[00:51:30] Yeah, I thought that as well.

[00:51:32] It really does feel like that.

[00:51:33] Yeah, yeah.

[00:51:34] Because he like he spends so much of the when he turns up just being like he's the most genuine man I've ever met.

[00:51:40] There's a bit where he says like let me speak to my agent Eric Walters who is the most genuine agent I've ever met and I've met a ton.

[00:51:47] Yeah, which is like very much like just him being like actually he's a really good guy.

[00:51:51] And like there are some good agents out there but he's a really good one.

[00:51:54] And then he said like once once I left him I've been with Crooks.

[00:51:58] I've been with terrible people.

[00:52:00] People who wouldn't take my call and it gets really like emotional and you're sort of like like just Eric taken back.

[00:52:06] Take her on back, man.

[00:52:08] This is the romance you wanted Jack.

[00:52:10] There's the passion for football.

[00:52:11] There's the passion for football between those two.

[00:52:13] Yeah.

[00:52:14] Wow, between a young up and coming footballer and a hardened black cab driver.

[00:52:20] Black cab driver.

[00:52:21] Yeah.

[00:52:22] I mean yeah.

[00:52:27] It's sort of the bit where he says you could call him at one in the morning if you had a problem with your misses

[00:52:33] or someone who happened to you.

[00:52:34] He'd leave his house and come and help you again all I can imagine that he's on his black cab and he's like.

[00:52:39] I think I have a few fairs on the way.

[00:52:42] And by the way, this is like these are high fairs now.

[00:52:46] Yeah.

[00:52:47] Yeah, you could he would always it always be really good to always come comfort you.

[00:52:52] He'd always be really negotiations.

[00:52:54] He always gave you a great when he'd attack see to the airport.

[00:52:57] He was was on the clock though.

[00:53:00] But I think Eric Walters would have a great book much like Rohan Ricketts should have had.

[00:53:07] And we've kind of reached the end of it now.

[00:53:09] I mean, we do at the end we do have these weird tributes like you mentioned how Huddleston's ex-amation marks and then mark bright.

[00:53:18] His bit is the weirdest two pages doesn't really make any sense.

[00:53:23] And then at one point he says this line which was even when a coach told me I would never make a professional as long as I had a whole summer in my body.

[00:53:31] And I was like, oh no.

[00:53:33] It's a super way he's like, I had a good time.

[00:53:37] I was pretty lucky with injuries apart from the time I broke my arm twice of one season and my knee got washed out.

[00:53:43] What's happening here?

[00:53:47] And then just ends.

[00:53:49] Like his I don't get because all the others are like kind of like a little bit like, oh this is how you can this is why your career can be really good for your mark bright.

[00:53:55] It's just I shouldn't have been a footballer.

[00:53:58] And I got really bad the injured goodbye.

[00:54:02] Well, Brian's just like could you could you swear us a knee?

[00:54:06] Yeah, any knee.

[00:54:08] I don't know who's reading this if you've got a knee unlike one please give me a knee.

[00:54:15] And then once you get past these little tributes by footballers ends with now over to you.

[00:54:21] So it's over to us to use the facts to use whatever mark bright was telling us to go get a taxi driver to out to be our agent and then conquer the Hungarian third division.

[00:54:34] That's what is never get paid and never get paid but did this book change you everyone.

[00:54:40] I mean, I got up at 7 a.m. when for a jog or did some fuel yes, mashing it is really invigorated me.

[00:54:50] It's the perfect book for January really we should save it until like first of January next year I'm going to reread it.

[00:54:56] That is a very good point.

[00:54:58] I am you saying I'm not.

[00:55:01] I'm you saying about Rashford's book something along the lines of like on a hangover it really makes you feel feel better about yourself.

[00:55:10] So yeah, I think these books do serve a place in that way.

[00:55:14] And this book kind of feels like it's like it tries to do what Rashford did in several more pages in about six pages.

[00:55:21] So you know, it can be applauded for efficiency in some ways.

[00:55:24] Yeah, in some ways and this square at 10.

[00:55:28] Seven and eight eight.

[00:55:32] Wow, I didn't see that coming.

[00:55:34] Oh my god.

[00:55:35] I enjoyed it.

[00:55:36] I thought it was funny.

[00:55:37] It made me laugh.

[00:55:38] I'm mostly laughing at it rather than with it but I quite enjoyed it and it was short to the point.

[00:55:43] Well, it does get extra bonus points for sure.

[00:55:46] Extra bonus.

[00:55:47] Two extra for short.

[00:55:48] Yeah, okay.

[00:55:50] Jack, I feel like you're going to say great.

[00:55:53] Is compelling though because I did enjoy reading it.

[00:55:57] It was very short and it was very satisfying to just click through and just see that percentage.

[00:56:03] Yeah, and it was just making me smile every time because I was like what is going to be next?

[00:56:07] That is going to be a recipe in here.

[00:56:09] Is there going to be like what's coming?

[00:56:12] I don't know.

[00:56:13] I was so bad if there's a rat.

[00:56:17] Right, you wouldn't put it past it.

[00:56:19] No, no, no.

[00:56:20] I've run into...

[00:56:22] Yeah.

[00:56:23] I've gone into Nigel Rio Cogas house and of Arthur is favorite recipes.

[00:56:29] Right, what are you doing here?

[00:56:33] Jack, are you going to give it a simile high score?

[00:56:36] Do you know what?

[00:56:37] It's quite compelling argument.

[00:56:39] I think it's impossible to give it higher than a five.

[00:56:41] I think I will give it a five.

[00:56:43] Okay.

[00:56:44] I don't know if there enough, I would say with that.

[00:56:47] I want to give it six.

[00:56:49] I agree with you.

[00:56:50] It should be impossible to give all the five because they're really...

[00:56:53] It's too out there but it was fun.

[00:56:56] I like Rohan Ricketts.

[00:56:57] I liked him as a player when he was at Spurs.

[00:56:59] I was quite excited by him and then he just seems to disappear.

[00:57:03] I didn't quite understand.

[00:57:05] I hope he's doing well.

[00:57:07] I hope Rohan's...

[00:57:08] I'm delighted to hear.

[00:57:10] I think I'm giving him extra points just because he runs a salsa score in...

[00:57:13] I think that is a really important...

[00:57:17] You know, wider reading to this.

[00:57:19] That's not a set of things.

[00:57:20] No one brand.

[00:57:21] It's something I could never predict it but I'm like, yeah.

[00:57:24] You live your life Rohan makes total sense.

[00:57:26] James Balgeon, perfect ten?

[00:57:28] Oh yeah, pretty much.

[00:57:30] I've learned some inadvertently learning some crazy salsa facts.

[00:57:34] Stop reading those!

[00:57:36] They're just salsa affair ends in 4.2 million pound of horse.

[00:57:41] Oh!

[00:57:43] And yeah, Godfather of Salsa, Johnny Pacheco passes away.

[00:57:47] There's lots of...

[00:57:49] There's a deep world of salsa.

[00:57:53] So yeah, it's not my eyes to that so...

[00:57:57] Don't give him a ten.

[00:57:58] Don't give him a ten for that.

[00:57:59] I was about to say ten.

[00:58:01] Nine?

[00:58:03] Right, James give it a nine.

[00:58:07] Johnny Pacheco got a book.

[00:58:09] James, let's see.

[00:58:10] I will find out, let you know.

[00:58:12] Oh my God, the smell of the residence is really well.

[00:58:14] It's fallen to a death while it tended to salsa pie.

[00:58:16] Oh my God.

[00:58:17] Salsa seems quite dangerous.

[00:58:19] Yes.

[00:58:20] We were...

[00:58:21] Salsa is in books and...

[00:58:22] The only thing I've heard about that before is when someone was...

[00:58:26] Someone tangoed out the window.

[00:58:29] And died.

[00:58:31] I knew about that but Salsa's a whole different thing.

[00:58:33] When someone tangoed out the window and died.

[00:58:37] Someone's teaching a tango class, tangoed out an open window.

[00:58:41] What? No.

[00:58:42] I read it on a list of weird deaths ones.

[00:58:44] Was it by Alan Hansen?

[00:58:46] Alan Hansen.

[00:58:48] Strange as dancing sets.

[00:58:50] The bookiest of all deaths.

[00:58:52] I don't think we've ever had a book this...

[00:58:56] This...

[00:58:57] Wide-ranging scores.

[00:58:59] 8, 5, 6, 9.

[00:59:01] 28, 4, 7.

[00:59:03] I'll say it might be the best in the series.

[00:59:05] No.

[00:59:06] I don't know what's happened here.

[00:59:08] It is the shortest but we've done right.

[00:59:10] I was trying to think that through earlier.

[00:59:12] Yeah, it must be, right?

[00:59:13] Yeah.

[00:59:14] The linica ones were tiny though, weren't they?

[00:59:17] Like the size.

[00:59:18] They're about 150 pages.

[00:59:20] There are 200 pages I think those ones.

[00:59:22] But yeah, you're right.

[00:59:23] They were...

[00:59:24] Even those Owen ones were...

[00:59:27] They had a lot of...

[00:59:28] There were short pages but they had a lot of stuff in them.

[00:59:30] Like the skills one.

[00:59:32] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:59:34] Yeah.

[00:59:35] That was another book.

[00:59:36] We've done so much terrible stuff.

[00:59:38] I'm sorry, Jack.

[00:59:39] I'm sorry, Jack.

[00:59:40] And now we'll have a break.

[00:59:42] We'll have a book of seven.

[00:59:43] Good long.

[00:59:44] And it's only available in Alva 250.

[00:59:46] So go out and buy it everyone.

[00:59:47] True.

[00:59:48] Don't.

[00:59:49] Quiz time.

[00:59:50] Oh, okay.

[00:59:52] For the quiz this week,

[00:59:53] your name's after symptoms a player

[00:59:56] with water intoxication might experience.

[00:59:58] So thank you very much to Matthew Mayuse,

[01:00:01] sports psychologist for this one.

[01:00:03] So Jack, your loss of breath.

[01:00:06] Tash.

[01:00:07] Your headaches and confusion.

[01:00:09] And James, your twitching and cramping.

[01:00:11] And be named, shout him out.

[01:00:15] You got to do me for question number one.

[01:00:17] Who said this?

[01:00:18] Little man.

[01:00:19] You're going to make some money.

[01:00:20] It comes in tomorrow.

[01:00:21] Oh, loss of breath.

[01:00:23] Yes.

[01:00:24] Jamie Red now.

[01:00:26] Is that who you're going to say as well?

[01:00:28] Yeah.

[01:00:29] Headaches and confusion.

[01:00:30] Yeah.

[01:00:31] Is correct.

[01:00:33] Jamie says that in the gym,

[01:00:34] I think before his first ever pace.

[01:00:35] So weird.

[01:00:36] Again, such a strange thing to it to a child.

[01:00:39] Question number two.

[01:00:41] Why was Rohan later training in India?

[01:00:43] Oh, loss of breath.

[01:00:46] Oh, God.

[01:00:47] Always.

[01:00:48] Jack.

[01:00:49] Yeah, with it.

[01:00:50] Cows on the road.

[01:00:51] Cows on the road.

[01:00:52] Ls in the road.

[01:00:53] Of course it was.

[01:00:54] Number question number three.

[01:00:56] Name any of the things a few points available here?

[01:00:58] Name any of the things Rohan bought

[01:01:00] with his first big pay packet spurs?

[01:01:02] Oh, headaches and confusion.

[01:01:05] Mm-hmm.

[01:01:06] He saw someone have something diamond encrested

[01:01:10] and went out and bought as the jewelers number

[01:01:12] and went and got it.

[01:01:13] Oh, it was to faux, wasn't it?

[01:01:14] It was to faux.

[01:01:15] I will give you that.

[01:01:16] That was right.

[01:01:17] You got two diamond encrested rings

[01:01:18] and two earrings from to faux.

[01:01:19] But there's two other things still.

[01:01:21] Yep.

[01:01:22] Mercedes.

[01:01:23] Yes, a C-class.

[01:01:24] A black C-class Mercedes.

[01:01:25] Yep.

[01:01:26] That's correct.

[01:01:27] A C-class Mercedes.

[01:01:28] And one other thing.

[01:01:29] Oh, a confusion and headaches.

[01:01:32] Yep.

[01:01:33] It was a watch.

[01:01:35] Yes.

[01:01:36] Was it a roll?

[01:01:37] No, it was Cartier.

[01:01:38] Very good.

[01:01:39] Very good.

[01:01:40] Cartier is correct.

[01:01:42] Such a cliché.

[01:01:43] And all those things only cost him half his pay packet.

[01:01:48] That was my big takeaway from that.

[01:01:50] I couldn't really believe.

[01:01:51] Back at the old days you could get,

[01:01:53] oh, you could get so much for your money, couldn't you?

[01:01:55] The Mercedes must have been on finance, surely.

[01:01:58] He would have been getting like, I had no 20 grand or so on like that.

[01:02:02] Right?

[01:02:03] He wouldn't be getting any more than that.

[01:02:04] Probably not even that.

[01:02:05] So no way.

[01:02:06] No way.

[01:02:07] You should ask Rohan.

[01:02:08] Yeah, I like.

[01:02:09] He might have said this question number, what are you on five?

[01:02:12] Who else did the media agency Rohan sign for work with?

[01:02:16] Another famous Canadian name.

[01:02:19] Oh, oh, lots of breath.

[01:02:21] Yes.

[01:02:22] Nelly Vattardo.

[01:02:23] Nelly Vattardo is correct.

[01:02:25] It was a Canadian pochie.

[01:02:26] It's such a name, name a Canadian person.

[01:02:29] Yeah.

[01:02:30] It's a Indian.

[01:02:31] Yes, they do.

[01:02:32] It was a great.

[01:02:34] And finally who gets dozens of emails a week from young fans?

[01:02:40] From what?

[01:02:41] From young fans to death.

[01:02:43] I get dozens of emails a week from young fans.

[01:02:46] One of them at the end.

[01:02:48] It might be.

[01:02:49] Yeah.

[01:02:50] I think that's what the media must be.

[01:02:54] Loser breath.

[01:02:55] Raymond.

[01:02:56] As in the little French video game character.

[01:03:01] No, the zest Raymond zest.

[01:03:03] Yes, Raymond is correct.

[01:03:04] Is zest.

[01:03:05] Is zest Raymond who writes something about his time playing football?

[01:03:10] At the end.

[01:03:11] Jack.

[01:03:12] You know, the first other PlayStation player to play in the premier.

[01:03:15] Yeah.

[01:03:16] Yeah, and his hands weren't even attached to his body.

[01:03:18] You got Jack, you got five.

[01:03:20] I think and Tash, you got two James.

[01:03:23] I'm guessing you were just doing a shot of that.

[01:03:25] What was my name?

[01:03:26] I forgot it.

[01:03:27] I really wanted to say it as well.

[01:03:28] Twitch and cramping.

[01:03:29] Twitch and cramping.

[01:03:30] Which is also a salsa.

[01:03:32] I was going to say which is Rohan Ricketts' best salsa move is twitching cramping.

[01:03:39] The Beatles be side.

[01:03:42] Okay.

[01:03:46] Jack, you have one.

[01:03:48] Okay.

[01:03:49] Okay.

[01:03:50] I can't even song.

[01:03:51] Do you know what?

[01:03:52] Can I just say, can I win the ability to push the score up and down?

[01:03:56] What does that mean?

[01:03:57] As in, can I give you a mix of.

[01:03:59] Can I make this?

[01:04:00] Can I make this?

[01:04:01] Can I make this?

[01:04:02] I like having lower score.

[01:04:03] That is a power I'd never once thought about bestowing upon someone.

[01:04:06] Maybe.

[01:04:07] I'm just so fed up of these high scores from these bad books.

[01:04:11] Yeah.

[01:04:12] What would you knock it down to?

[01:04:14] And then we can vote.

[01:04:15] I would knock it.

[01:04:16] I would say you can only knock it down or up 0.5.

[01:04:19] Okay.

[01:04:20] Oh, okay.

[01:04:21] And you want to knock it out by 0.5?

[01:04:22] Yeah.

[01:04:23] I just want to knock it down to 6.5.

[01:04:26] I think 6.5 is reasonable.

[01:04:28] Okay.

[01:04:29] I worry what this might do.

[01:04:31] Take a look at the show.

[01:04:33] Give me some power.

[01:04:34] Give me some power.

[01:04:35] And I am over the floodgates.

[01:04:37] I'm going to have to say.

[01:04:39] I don't care.

[01:04:40] Yeah.

[01:04:41] Fine.

[01:04:42] Whatever.

[01:04:43] Okay.

[01:04:44] Look now has a great.

[01:04:45] Sorry.

[01:04:46] Jack has spoken.

[01:04:47] I guess.

[01:04:48] Anyway, the Kenzong this week was suggested by Christina.

[01:04:52] Chris Brazier who wanted this Mike and she will go romance track with a particular ever

[01:04:58] one football.

[01:04:59] I haven't tried practice this.

[01:05:01] Let me try.

[01:05:02] To the tune of I'm not okay.

[01:05:04] By Mike and her comments all familiar with my comrades is back catalog.

[01:05:08] Okay.

[01:05:09] That's good.

[01:05:10] A lot of people in my year group.

[01:05:12] my year group at a big, uh, big, uh, MCR period. So I feel like I should know this but, um,

[01:05:19] what was the other thing I said people in my year group really got into? Oh, look around you

[01:05:22] uh before we start recording. We had school I went to. Okay, specifically series two

[01:05:29] on the ground. Serious to have looked around you and MCR. Okay. Well, if you want consistency,

[01:05:35] you'll know he's got to play. He'll never let you down or miss a pass. He always spots the

[01:05:43] play defenders can't ignore his perfect balls through their back four whenever it falls to his

[01:05:49] feet. There's no doubt that we're gonna score Idris again. Idris again. Idris again.

[01:06:01] Idris again. He'll wear you out. There we go. Oh,

[01:06:10] that good. Very good. I didn't want to lean too much the emo voice. So I didn't want to let

[01:06:16] him. I noticed that. Yeah. You saved that. You should save that for, uh, for the, uh, for wider

[01:06:27] reading or whatever the book club club bonus chapter. I do it. I do it on my emo voice.

[01:06:33] The whole thing. The emo voice. Oh, bonus chapter. So I can have my story time voice in my

[01:06:40] emo voice. The two voices. Yes, that's pretty cool. All right. Uh, I'll do that. That's all of

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